Yoga of Thinking

"Striped Shirt" Interview
Recorded January 22, 1980

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Description Subject/
Opening Sentence
12-1 1-43 On the use of journals. Journals took on a necessity when I started working on the helicopter. (PART ONE) Journal
I used the journals way back…
12-2 1-08 Journal use at Bell. Began to use journals for other thoughts – Gee whiz, (PART TWO) Journal
Bell Notes
In any case I carried on the journal work
12-3* 3-06 Nothing Sacred story. Arthur’s dream revealing the secrets of the universe. The realm of inspiration is outside of time. Sacred
That reminds me the story of Nothing Sacred.
12-4* 3-00 Theory is process of manifestation into substance, then form, then physical existence. Reason that dreams are so important in our lives. Example of dream of horses in chamoises. Manifestation
The theory is the process by which whatever you call it…
12-5* 3-48 Light is the electromagnetic spectrum, but it is also enlightenment. Everything that happens is due to light. Pair creation. Light in myth. Mazda – God of light. St. Basel on the firmament – the speed of light. We are light going through this experience to gain more understanding. Light
When I say light I mean the entire electromagnetic spectrum…
12-6 0-45 Difference between thinking and intuition. Theory that dreams don’t use the brain. Thinking
I would distinguish our thinking from our intuition.
13-1 1-20 Where do ideas come from? Everything issues from a central source of light. Synchronicity comes from everywhere. Thought
The question of whether there’s a different source for different thoughts …
13-2* 2-07 Domain of light is not subject to limitations. Dreams provide a language for the spirit. Dream example with MBM – film and refrigerator. Science tends to miss the meaning for the distracting elements in the picture. Spirit
I think that perhaps what’s more worth dwelling on . . n.
13-3 4-00 Demonstration of types of stability using a simple airplane model. Instability as applied to society, e.g, between government, industry and the university. These should be working to correct one another. When they work together they create catastrophic instability. Stability
(Ready when you are J.B.) This is the question of stability.
13-4 2-05 Story of radionics experiments with Frances Farrelly. She tried to poison mice in order to heal them but they wouldn’t get sick. Radionics
Frances Farrelly. She was a...
13-5* 3-02 The predicament of the helicopter in 1944, like the early bird that had wings but couldn’t fly. Survival of the fittest doesn’t explain the incubation period when the bird is learning to fly. It’s necessary to make an effort. Helicopter
When I was back in Philadelphia I was going through my notes . . .
13-6 2-11 The difference between rhythm and vibration. Rhythm is a something you partipate in – vibration is external. Best understood as modulo and residue. (AB says rhythm is perceived over time while vibration is perceived instantaneously. Rhythm
You asked me is rhythm the same as vibration.
13-7 1-22 Rotation as an absolute. Velocity is question of who is observing it – and hence relative. But if I get up and rotate I can’t claim that the universe rotated around me because it would mean that the stars would be travelling greater than the speed of light. Thus it is relativity itself that says that rotation is absolute. Rotation
Relativity would lead you to expect rotation to be relative.
13-8 2-20 Physics is the only science that deals with first principles. That’s why I have a quarrel with it. The photon is unique in that to see a photon is to annihilate it. Physics
First Principles
Photoelectric Effect
Q: What do we mean by science?
13-9 1-31 AY on black holes. Gravitons have spin 2. If light can’t radiate from black holes, how can gravitons radiate? Black Holes
Now everybody’s heard about black holes.
13-10 3-36 Physicist’s difficulty in explaining a force. You can’t see it, weigh it, isolate it, etc. So the scientist says it’s caused by a shower of particles. AY says it’s the other way around – the force is primary. Hugeness of forces. Physics
Electromagnetic Force
For the most part I want to stick very closely to the findings of physics.
13-11* 1-05 The universe is something infinite that droops down into objectivity and then sweeps back to the infinite. Infinity
According to the theory what the universe really consist of…
13-12 5-55 Summary of the mind-body problem essay. The four aspects applied to an automobile. Relation to Arisotles four causes. Four aspects applied to the mental world. The scientist’s approach as opposed to the infant’s approach. Mind/Body Problem
Aristotle’s Causes
Well, I have an essay in my forthcoming book called The Mind-Body Problem.
13-13 1-17 Difference between the scientist and the inventor. Scientist is trying to discover the law, the inventor is trying to get around the law. Inventor
Natural Law
The scientist is anxious to find what the law is…
13-14 1-17 I’m often accused of answering questions that people aren’t asking. Theory provides answers. The questions will come later. Bacon quote about the mind. Questions
The Theory
I suppose that’s one of the real troubles with the theory.


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